Verbale riunione Consiglio Direttivo TICat (Board of Officers) 2.1.2017

Email meeting starting 2.1.2017

Dear Officers,
this minutes are in English to allow Genevieve to understand.

Agenda:
1.	New members acceptance
2.	Future shows to be financially managed directly from TICat
3.	The forthcoming Chiuduno show, Jan. 28-29, 2017

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1.	The new applicants to become TICat members are:
Elisa Biondaro, Alessia Bragagnolo, Alessandro De pace, Boris Ehret, Ileana Lidia Iorio, Amanda Mastroianni, Laura Zetti.
They have all attended the recent TICat show in Novara. The President assumes that this is enough for endorsement and proposes the Board to accept them all. Does the Board agree?

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	▪	The TICat members’ Assembly, in date Dec. 30 2016, has suggested the Board of Officers to change the current system of show organization. Following a deliberation taken in August 2015, shows are currently financially managed by individual groups of organizers selected by the Board among the members of TICat and have full financial responsability of the show:  they pay all expenses and all the deficit, but, if the outcome is profitable, they must devolve 20% of the profit to TICat. This allows to organize shows even though TICat’s balance is insufficient.
		The Assembly proposes that, for the forthcoming shows whose expenditures have not yet begun, the financial management will be handled by TICat directly, with full responsability in case of deficit but full earning of any profits. This new procedure will be not too difficult to implement when TICat will reach a sufficient financial balance. Considering the typical income of yearly membership fees and the current one-time expenses for show cages, this amount in the balance should be reached in  about 3 years or less, unless donations are received. The President asks now the Officers to establish the guidelines to make the new procedure possible in the immediate future.
		For bookkeeping, all expenses will have to be charged to the official TICat’s bank account. Actually, TICat has no bank account of its own, but a debit card in the name of the Treasurer Alessio Pasquini has been designated (in the first meeting of the current Board of Officers, in date May 3rd, 2016) to be used only for the financial operations of TICat, and this debit card is associated to an IBAN number, that is, can be used as a virtual bank account. However, no checks can be drawn on it. Therefore, all payments must be done via the debit card or bank deposits online. Access to these online financial operations require the online bank password of Alessio Pasquini, only he is allowed to do them. Instead, the debit card could be used by anyone who has it, but for safety reasons it is advisable that only the owner,  Alessio Pasquini, makes use of it. As a consequence, all payments and purchases based on the debit card and its virtual bank account will have to be done by the Treasurer Alessio Pasquini. TICat has another way of payments, that is a PayPal account, that is based on the same debit card. Again for safety reasons, it is advisable that also this method of payment will be uniquely handled by the Treasurer.
		However, there are many instances where payments will have to be made by individual organizers, like, for instance, everything having to do with purchases of small items for the shows (typography expenses, soft drinks, coffee, candies and equipment for the judging rings, repairs of equipment, tools for assembling the show hall material, gifts for the judges and many others). In this case, we cannot expect the Treasurer to move to the show city in advance to perform these operations, that will have to be paid in cash but with a receipt consisting of an invoice in the name of TICat. Some sellers are not equipped to issue an invoice on the spot: this will create problems. Also, sometimes this is simply impossible, as in the case of the ticket for the coffee machine for show venues like in Novara, or the tickets of the highway when picking up judges at airports. Moreover, TICat will have to reimburse the money to the members who have paid it. This requires to make a bank deposit to a member, something that is explicitly forbidden by the Statute of non-profit associations except in the current case of refunding a loan. So, all these many small payments will have to be recorded as loans made to TICat - a considerable workload for the Treasurer. Is the current Treasurer available to do this? If so, does the Board agree?

	▪	At any rate, each show needs to have an organizer, of a group of organizers, nominated by the Board of Officers among the members who will volunteer, and who will responsible of all choices and will decide the expenses: indeed, it would be impractical, and indeed impossible, ask the opinion of all the members for each individual choice and expense. As it is now, the choice of judges will be proposed by the organizers and approved (or changed) by the Board. Does the Board agree on this?

	▪	Next comes the financial responsability in case of deficit on a show. Until the moment when TICat will have a sufficiently large balance, this will be a very serious risk: two out of three of the shows up to now ended with a deficit (although minimal, if one deducts the one-time expenses to purchase show equipment ), and all had a negative balance at the beginning. If the financial responsability will be of TICat, also the deficit will be charged to the TICat ordinary members (of course not to the honorary members, who are appointed as such without having applied: they can nevertheless make donations if the wish, as everyone else). A non-profit association cannot start commercial enterprises wit financial risks. Therefore its members cannot be presumed to willing to share the debts. Therefore, for each show, each member should be preliminarly asked his/hers availability to take charge of the deficit if it will be higher than the available balance. In case that, during the preparation of a show, the expenses exceed the available balance of TICat, the members who accept will be held responsible for providing the necessary funds, and, if the show ends with a deficit, they shall take charge of the deficit in equal shares. Does the Board agree? This is essential, because financial activities of a non-profit organization cannot be approved without a financial plan to take care of the risks and prevent the balance from becoming negative. Of course, future  availability of funds (for instance, from membership fees and from donations) will be used to refund the members who have taken charge of the deficits. Does the Board agree?

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3.
The expenses for the forthcoming Chiuduno show have started in September and have progressed ever since, so that show is not be subject to the new system proposed above. The financial organizer is the President. However, the President prompts the Board to consider the possibility of refunding the expenses already made (or being made in these days) and taking financial care of this show directly out of the balance of TICat. The President warns the Board that the balance is currently inadequate: it amounts to less than 1000 Euros, while the expenses for the show are likely to reach the amount of 10.000 Euros. At the moment, the entry fees already paid amount to less than 1000 Euros, and TICat has taken the commitment to refund the President for the purchase of the show cages, approximately 1600 Euros. But if the organization is done cautiously, there are chances to end up with a gain. Last year, the show had a positive balance of approximately 1500 Euros, due to a great affluence of spectators (without which it would have ended with a deficit). This year, however,  we are having less entries, unfortunately. So, any decision of the Board t take over the financial charges depend in an essential way from the decisions taken at the previous point in this agenda, and need a poll with all the members to ascertain the willingness to share and refund the possible debt, or to make consistent donations. Chiara Lombardi had previously proposed a donation of almost 3000 Euros: this is likely (but not certain) to be enough. Does Chiara confirm her offer?
Right now the current deficit between expenses and collected entry fees is minimal, less than 100 Euros, but the payment of the rosettes is due now and brings the deficit to approximately 400 Euros. However, there are a great number of technical problems in the take-over, and these are all to be faced by the Treasurer. Indeed, each expense will have te be reimbursed to the person who paid, that is to the President, with the exact amount, in order to allow for a easily readable tax report. Indeed, since the show was privately organized by a person and not by an association that must present a balance report, all expenses have been done in exchange for receipts instead than invoices. A unique payment to the President that covers the current negative balance of the show would hardly be understandable from the viewpoint of tax reports. Instead, TICat must cover each single expense individually, and I must individually transfer each collected entry fee to the TICat account. This is a very strict condition on my part to agree to change the financial responsability and pass it over to TICat: I do not want to be forced to hire an accountant to help me prove to the tax agency that the entry fees that I received were not an income but just what we technically call  “partite di giro” (temporary money transfers at zero gain). Individual refunds make this easy. Of course, the Treasurer will have to account all these money transfers as “partite di giro”. It is clear that none of this was necessary when the financial responsability was of one or more persons instead than of an association: associations must publish a financial report of all their money exchanges, persons don’t except in the case of highly profitable commercial activities (not our case, of course!).
 
It would be better for the Treasurer to cover the expenses made via PayPal trough a PayPal payment: this would be easier for bookkeeping and report. In order to have zero expenses via PayPal, one needs to have a positive balance in the PayPal account. Probably this is not so with the TICat PayPal account, and certainly not so with mine because I used that account to pay the expenses. Therefore, if no donation is made presently to the TICat PyPal account, the Treasurer and I would need to shuffle our mutual payments accurately to avoid extra PayPal charges that would make accounting very complicate. This cannot be done via bank deposit without extra charged from the banks, that would have to be accounted for separately and would make the accounting more difficult. But this can be done by using PayPal. If we do this, then I will pass the hand to TICat and withdraw from any direct financial responsability.

There are two more complications. The first is that the accounts to be used for paying the entry fees have already been published in the flyer and are my own accounts, not TICat, just to keep TICat out of the financial responsability. I can update the flyer, but since it has already been distributed it may happen that we’ll have further payments to my accounts. In these cases we shall have to keep track of them and  transfer them as outiined before.

The second complication is an agreement with the judge Edith-Mary Smith, who offered to charge us only half of her flight expenses, but at the condition to be reimbursed all expenses in cash at the show (travel, local expenses, judging fees). Therefore it will be necessary to have this considerable amount of cash available. Presumably there will be a cash liquidity from the spectators’ ticket fees, but since the show is a joint show we shall not be allowed to access the TICat share of this cash until the very end of the show - I am not sure if Edith-Mary shall still be there. And there may be more cash expenses to be paid (in Novara, for instance, we had veterinary fees and cleaning fees; in Chiuduno we might also have to pay in cash for the tables, as last year). All this will be the responsability of the Treasurer, who will need to arrive to the show with adequate amount of cash taken from the TICat account. If, with these payments, we shall end up with a deficit, the Treasurer will have to put the money forward and then ask a refund from the members. Does the Treasurer agree? Does the Board agree?

I ask the opinion and the vote of the Board on all these points, and further discussion if suitable.

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Date: Mon, 2 Jan 2017 23:17:05 -0800
From: Chiara Lombardi <notification+maqqy5ex@facebookmail.com>
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Chiara Lombardi commented on your post in TICat - only for members [www.facebook.com].
Chiara Lombardi [www.facebook.com]
Chiara Lombardi [www.facebook.com]
7:16am Jan 3 Purtroppo non credo sia fattibile a cos? poco tempo di distanza e con spese gi? fatte..?
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Chiara Lombardi [www.facebook.com]
Chiara Lombardi [www.facebook.com]
7:19am Jan 3Come gi? ho risposto in consiglio far? studiare un attimo la situazione al mio revisore
dei conti cos? da capire come ? meglio muoversi Massimo Picardello [www.facebook.com] il verbale
della riunione dell' altro giorno gi? lo abbiamo?

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Date: Tue, 3 Jan 2017 06:01:50 +0000
From: chiara lombardi <chiara_lom@hotmail.com>
To: Massimo Picardello <picard@axp.mat.uniroma2.it>, genevieve basquine <gajeur@yahoo.fr>
Cc: Gryfo Bengals <gryfo.bengals@gmail.com>, Il Gatto Blu . <ilgattoblu@hotmail.com>
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I approve all the new members  for the rest  as I told privately  to Massimo I will wait to have
a official report from my tax preparer to understand  better how we need to do so I suggest to
postpone all the rest in another meeting  of the board after we have that report. 
For Chiunduno  show we can easily skip the problem changing the flier and writing on it show
organized from Angelo Massimo  Piccardello in cooperation with Ticat. To avoid the tax and debt
problems. 
Chiara

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To      : chiara lombardi <chiara_lom@hotmail.com>
Cc      : genevieve basquine <gajeur@yahoo.fr>, 
          Gryfo Bengals <gryfo.bengals@gmail.com>, 
          "Il Gatto Blu ." <ilgattoblu@hotmail.com>
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In reply to Chiara's remark: do I understand that she proposes a joint    
financing of me and TICat's?
I have no idea of how to proceed to share financial responsabilities
between a person (me) and an association (TICat). These two parties have   
different tax rules: TICat's gains are exempt from tax but must be devolved
to charity or set aside for future cultural uses - mine are not tax exempt above
a certain amount but have no restriction. I do not know if a joint venture
is legally possible, and if it is it will certainly need a notarized   
contract to clarify the respective amounts of money provided by the two
parties and the respective quotas for dividing the gains. This would 
require an expert lawyer more than a business consultant - and then a  
notary public. I do not have the money for the lawyr nd the notary, and
neither TICat does. Moreover, there is not enough time. If the Officers
think that, in order to follow the intentions of the TICat members, we
should make the Chiuduno show a financial responsability of TICat, then it
should be TICat only, not mixed, and we should do this right now. I had
to make other expenses today. Now there are expenses every day.

Of course, it TICat faces all the financing, I can still be the 
organizer of the Board suggests this. Provided, of course, that the 
Treasurer guarantees a prompt availability of cash or credit for all 
payments: purchases and expenses must be done quickly, otherwise the show     
is not going to be successful, and I do not want to be the organizer of
sloppy shows.

Massimo

Massimo Picardello
Department of Mathematics
University of Rome "Tor Vergata"
00133 Rome, Italy

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Date: Wed, 4 Jan 2017 02:51:45 +0000
From: chiara lombardi <chiara_lom@hotmail.com>
To: Massimo Picardello <picard@axp.mat.uniroma2.it>
Cc: genevieve basquine <gajeur@yahoo.fr>, Gryfo Bengals <gryfo.bengals@gmail.com>,
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No Massimo that was not at all my proposal . I only said that  to skip the problem  of the tax
and debt you should  write on the flyer organized by Massimo  Piccardello  in cooperation  with
Ticat(only because  you need  ticat to ask show license).
A sharing  will cause even more problems  of what we have now sadly. 
And as I  told to you all before is better to have a report  of a fiscal expert  before do
something else.
Mine is waiting to have the report  of the general  assembly  to start the work.
I suggest  that we postpone  all the rest  of decision  after the report  and in this board
meeting  we should just approve the new members that are waiting  from novara Show. 
If we let them out  of the group  so long they will feel abandoned and this is not the feeling
 that we want in new members. 
Hugs to all
Chiara

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Date: Wed, 4 Jan 2017 12:12:08 +0100 (CET)
From: Massimo Picardello <picard@axp.mat.uniroma2.it>
To: chiara lombardi <chiara_lom@hotmail.com>
Cc: genevieve basquine <gajeur@yahoo.fr>, Gryfo Bengals <gryfo.bengals@gmail.com>,
    Il Gatto Blu . <ilgattoblu@hotmail.com>
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We can add to the show flyer: "Show Organizer: Massimo Picardello". Every TICA show is licensed
to a TICA club, in this case to our TICA club TICat. One thing is the club who asks the license,
another is the show organizer: for large clubs (more than 5 or 6 members) the show organizers
are always a subset of the club. Normally, this is not written in the flyer, but it can be in
case a production company is involved. Therefore the sentence "Organizd by Massimo Picardello in
cooperation with TICat" sounds strange and not meaningful. At most, we could write: "Show
Organizer and Producer appointed by TICat: Massimo Picardello". Writing thishis is already
rather strange, actually. What exactly did you want to say?

The minutes o=f the Assembly are online. Did you download them?

As for the approval of the new members, so far only you and I have approved. We need at least a
third Officer's approval. Immediately afterwards they will be new members.

Massimo Picardello
Department of Mathematics
University of Rome "Tor Vergata"
00133 Rome, Italy

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Date: Wed, 4 Jan 2017 14:27:51 +0100
From: Gryfo Bengals <gryfo.bengals@gmail.com>
To: Massimo Picardello <picard@axp.mat.uniroma2.it>
Cc: chiara lombardi <chiara_lom@hotmail.com>, genevieve basquine <gajeur@yahoo.fr>,
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I totally agree with Chiara. I approve all the new members and I think it would be much
better wait for her fiscal expert report to go forward others decisions. 

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Date: Wed, 4 Jan 2017 14:09:56 +0000 (UTC)
From: genevieve basquine <gajeur@yahoo.fr>
To: Massimo Picardello <picard@axp.mat.uniroma2.it>, chiara lombardi <chiara_lom@hotmail.com>
Cc: Gryfo Bengals <gryfo.bengals@gmail.com>, Il Gatto Blu . <ilgattoblu@hotmail.com>
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Dear all,
of course we should accept all new members.
About the folowing points, as I don't know anything about italian incomes procedure, I will
abstain.
Genevieve

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Date: Wed, 4 Jan 2017 18:20:27 +0000
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To: Massimo Picardello <picard@axp.mat.uniroma2.it>, chiara lombardi <chiara_lom@hotmail.com>
Cc: genevieve basquine <gajeur@yahoo.fr>, Gryfo Bengals <gryfo.bengals@gmail.com>
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Dear all,

I approve new members and about the rest I would want to wait for the opinion of the
accountant.

Alessio Pasquini

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Date: Thu, 5 Jan 2017 20:27:00 +0100 (CET)
From: Massimo Picardello <picard@axp.mat.uniroma2.it>
To: Il Gatto Blu . <ilgattoblu@hotmail.com>
Cc: chiara lombardi <chiara_lom@hotmail.com>, genevieve basquine <gajeur@yahoo.fr>,
    Gryfo Bengals <gryfo.bengals@gmail.com>
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Dear Officers,
we need to add a new subpoint to point 2 of our Agenda (Future shows) and this
point is rather urgent. ENFI has approved ant put in calendar their show in
Florence, March 25-26 2017. We are welcome to do a joint show with them. The date
has been reserved for us since months. But in order to be allowed we need to ask
the license to TICA no later that 60 days before, that is just before the Chiuduno
show.
It is a nice show hall, not far from the very center of Florence (a little more
than a kilometer) and ENFI would pay all the general expenses and probably also the
tables and cages (all the cages and at least a good part of the tables if we do not
ask much).
By the way, Barbara, how much it would cost to bring our cages to Florence saturday
and bring them back sunday? We would have 5 rings, so even 40 cages might be
sufficient (50 would be better).

Florence has charme and a lot of attractiveness for the foreign exhibitors. The
hall is prestigeous. Doinfg a show in Florence is prestigeous: the first TICA show
ever in such a famous city. Our judging is more spectaculer than the traditional
format, and so we could attarct more exhibitors and more members in an area of the
country where we do need more of them. In my opinion, this is a chance that we
should not drop. We would probably end up at least even with expenses, and maybe
with some profit. Anyway, whether there will be spectators or not is not our
problem: we only depend on the exhibitors
and with so little expenses 70 or 80 entries at ful price would be enough for this
goal. Alessio lives not too far and could be the organizer, with my full support.
He would have the additional advantage that, since he is the Treasurer, he has no
problem in the financial management as decided by our Assembly, since he is the
person who has access to the credit card and bank account of TICat. In this case
everything would be simple and we do not even need the opinion of an accountant.
Alessio, your availability?

Board members, your view on this proposal?

Massimo Picardello
Department of Mathematics
University of Rome "Tor Vergata"
00133 Rome, Italy

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Date: Thu, 5 Jan 2017 21:38:23 +0100 (CET)
From: Massimo Picardello <picard@axp.mat.uniroma2.it>
To: genevieve basquine <gajeur@yahoo.fr>
Cc: chiara lombardi <chiara_lom@hotmail.com>, Gryfo Bengals <gryfo.bengals@gmail.com>,
    Il Gatto Blu . <ilgattoblu@hotmail.com>
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Dear Officers,
an addition to point 1 in the Agenda.
We have three new applicants to become members: Davide Maffini, Sara Bianchi and Marco Vergani. Although the name of sara
Bianchi might sound vaguely familiar, these new applicants are unknown to me and they were not exhibitors in Novara. We
need their application form (that includes their statement of approval of the mission of TICat and TICA) and an
endorsement. Does any of the Officers know these persons? What is worse, the three applicants have already paid their
membership fees, so, in case they are not endorsed, the Tra=easurer would need to reimburse them. Please send me any
information available. Thank you.

Massimo Picardello
Department of Mathematics
University of Rome "Tor Vergata"
00133 Rome, Italy

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Date: Thu, 5 Jan 2017 23:05:30 +0000
From: Il Gatto Blu . <ilgattoblu@hotmail.com>
To: "gajeur@yahoo.fr" <gajeur@yahoo.fr>, Massimo Picardello <picard@axp.mat.uniroma2.it>,
    CHIARA LOMBARDI <chiara_lom@hotmail.com>, "gryfo.bengals@gmail.com" <gryfo.bengals@gmail.com>
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Vi comunico che a seguito di un controllo della lista dei nuovi soci ? stato riscontrato che Anita Rizzetto aveva pagato la
quota doppia nel 2016 perche pensava di pagare anche l'anno 2015, ma non essendo possibile pagare in retroattivo la
aggiungo nei soci paganti del 2017 .

Buona serata a tutti. 

Alessio Pasquini

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Date: Fri, 6 Jan 2017 07:48:40 +0000
From: chiara lombardi <chiara_lom@hotmail.com>
To: Il Gatto Blu . <ilgattoblu@hotmail.com>, "gajeur@yahoo.fr" <gajeur@yahoo.fr>,
    Massimo Picardello <picard@axp.mat.uniroma2.it>,
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Per i soci ho scritto un post in tica Italia.
Per lo show penso sarebbe una bella occasione e forse  auto un costo decisamente  gestibile dal
club!
Vorrei solo che ci? non ci mettesse in difficolt? con le  altre associazioni e quindi ognuno dovrebbe
parlere con i contatti  che ha per capire se pu? andare  bene.
Poi vorrei sapere se ci sar?  anche CFA. 
E che range di costo si prevede.
Chiara 

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Date: Fri, 6 Jan 2017 08:17:20 +0000
From: chiara lombardi <chiara_lom@hotmail.com>
To: Il Gatto Blu . <ilgattoblu@hotmail.com>, "gajeur@yahoo.fr" <gajeur@yahoo.fr>,
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Marco Vergani ?  il rinnovo della socia Erika Schiavone  ( carta del marito)

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Date: Fri, 6 Jan 2017 09:25:10 +0000 (UTC)
From: genevieve basquine <gajeur@yahoo.fr>
To: Massimo Picardello <picard@axp.mat.uniroma2.it>, Il Gatto Blu . <ilgattoblu@hotmail.com>
Cc: chiara lombardi <chiara_lom@hotmail.com>, Gryfo Bengals <gryfo.bengals@gmail.com>
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Dear all,
this is a very good news. Let me tell you about my experience as the first president of Euro-Cat.
We created the club with the beginning of the millennium in 2000. During the first 4 years, my Board
refused to join a traditional exhibition. Our catcounts were around 80 cats. It was very difficult to
cover our expenses. From the day the Board changed its mind, we saw a very rapid increase in our catcounts
because the exhibitors took advantage of it to make points in TICA and to acquire traditional titles of
championship. Personally, I find it extremely profitable to offer exhibitors this opportunity.
I hope that show in Florence bring many visitors and will be profitable to both association.
Genevieve

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Date: Fri, 6 Jan 2017 10:25:03 +0000
From: chiara lombardi <chiara_lom@hotmail.com>
To: genevieve basquine <gajeur@yahoo.fr>, Massimo Picardello <picard@axp.mat.uniroma2.it>,
    Il Gatto Blu . <ilgattoblu@hotmail.com>
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Un altra domanda sappiamo gi?  quale sar?  la show all?

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To      : chiara lombardi <chiara_lom@hotmail.com>
Cc      : genevieve basquine <gajeur@yahoo.fr>, 
          "Il Gatto Blu ." <ilgattoblu@hotmail.com>, 
          Gryfo Bengals <gryfo.bengals@gmail.com>
Attchmnt: 
Subject : Re: R: R: R: Meeting of TICat Board of Officers, 2.1.2017
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The show hall in Florence is Obi Hall. I checked on Google Maps: its  
distance from the churh of Santa Croce is 2.4 kms, and from Santa Maria   
del Fiore (the cathedral) 3.3 kms. So, it is slightly out of the center.
Thedistance from the closest railway station (Campo di Marte) is only 2.2
kms.

The budget for this show depends on the hotel costs. Florence is certainly
more expensive than Novara or Chiuduno, but we should have good bargains
(we'll know netx week, ENFI is negotiating with the hotels). Also, flights
to Florence are slightly more expensive than to Milan. If we invite 4
judges(I could be the 5th)  and they all stay until monday morning, I'd   
expect to have to pay at most 1400 Euros for the hotel, but probably less.
The flights will not cost much, but one always has to add transportation
to the airport or parking. I guess that it will cost us less than 1000   
Euros. Then there are judging fees, of the order of 1000 Euros for 90 cats
(if there are more cats then these fees are higher, but we'll have a
profit anyway thanks to the entry fees). Then judges gifts, banquet and
lunchs/dinners: maybe 650 Euros, maybe less. Then transportation costs for
oyr cages and/or renting fees for cages and tables: Barbara will let me
know the costs for bringing the cages, but I would think that cages and
tables will cost us at most 400 Euros, and they may be free of charge if
ENFI covers our expenses. Then 400 Euros for the TICA licenses (actually
less with only 5 rings unless we want to do congresses) and 400 Euros
for rosettes (unless Olga Dentico makes them) and 200 Euros for insurance.
So, we are considering a budget of 5600 Euros. I may have forgotten
something, like candies for the rings, soft drinks and coffees, lunches   
for the clerks, decorations of the rings, but ok, if we preventivate 6000 
Euros we are certain to overestimate (and if ENFI gets good hotel prices
and good banquet prices, or if some of the judges leave sunday, we could
probably save several hundreds Euros).
If the average enry fee is 60 Euros (considering early
birds and doscounts for TICat members) this budget would be
certainly covered by 100 entries. But, like I said, I am overestimating
the costs, so most probably 80 or 90 exhibitors would be enough. In
Florence we would certainly have at least these many. The chance of
having no loss is very high (and maybe some income: I did not count
sponsoring of ringsand maybe our own sponsors if ENFI agrees). Besides, we can
attract exhibitors from ENFI: I would guess we will! And several of our   
mmebers will be pushed to attend so that they can have a traditional title
at the same time (like Genevieve daid, this is a very important leverage
to expand the participation).

Chiara asks if ANFI would become upset of our having a joint show with
ENFI. Well, I am in good terms with ANFI: they are available to do a joint
show with us in Rome next November! I did not propose this to you yet  
because we have OnSafari in October, so our cages will all be up North, and we shall be
tired, and also because I want to see how the Chiuduno show goes. Besides,
it is not easy to find a date available for TICA shows in November. But it
is VERY important for us to have a joint show with ANFI. Right now I do
not think that our having a joint show with ENFI would damage us with
ANFI: I did ask this question confidentially to ANFI, and since their show
that weekend is far enough (in Latina) they seem to be ok with this.  

The advantages of doig this show would be many. First: our first show in  
Tuscany, where Alessio is very active to help interested people, would
bring us severalnew members there, allowing us to handle future shows. 
Second, a joint show with ENFI is always useful, since they do organize   
shows in Tuscany. Third, this will bring us to do a total of 4 shows in 12
months, and maybe 5 if the project with ANFI works out. This would project
us to a very serious stance in TICA, it woud allow us to hold Regional  
Shows in the future, and it would certainly attract many more members.  
Fourth, it would lead us to have, in a period of 12 months, two shows
alone and 3 in collaboration with three different partners (including all 
the Italian Stud Books currently approved - but I am attending the WCF
General Assembly and there I will inquire with AFEF if they want to do a  
joint show with us).

Two more points. Under request of the show manager of Chiuduno, I just
bought 5 more cages. So we can now count on 66 cages. Not bad, thinking
that last July we had none! This allows us a lot of freedom in organizing
our shows.

Second point: Sara Bianchi, a breeder of RD and SB and a member of TICA,
has applied to become a member of TICat, has sent us her TICat
registration form, with the acceptance of our mission, and her payment. Do
you agree to accept her? If so, I shall send her her membership card.     

Best regards,
Massimo

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Date: Fri, 6 Jan 2017 13:16:59 +0000
From: chiara lombardi <chiara_lom@hotmail.com>
To: Massimo Picardello <picard@axp.mat.uniroma2.it>
Cc: genevieve basquine <gajeur@yahoo.fr>, Il Gatto Blu . <ilgattoblu@hotmail.com>,
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I find all that very promissing  and we should accept her for sure!

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Date: Fri, 6 Jan 2017 13:21:00 +0000
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To: Massimo Picardello <picard@axp.mat.uniroma2.it>
Cc: genevieve basquine <gajeur@yahoo.fr>, Il Gatto Blu . <ilgattoblu@hotmail.com>,
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With who of anfi you talked? 

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Date: Fri, 6 Jan 2017 15:14:09 +0000
From: chiara lombardi <chiara_lom@hotmail.com>
To: Massimo Picardello <picard@axp.mat.uniroma2.it>
Cc: genevieve basquine <gajeur@yahoo.fr>, Il Gatto Blu . <ilgattoblu@hotmail.com>,
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Possiamo  considerare l'idea  di dividere i giudici  con enfi invitandone il doppio ? Tipo Ginevra o Parigi per
capirci.

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Date: Fri, 6 Jan 2017 07:48:40 +0000
From: chiara lombardi <chiara_lom@hotmail.com>
To: Il Gatto Blu . <ilgattoblu@hotmail.com>, "gajeur@yahoo.fr" <gajeur@yahoo.fr>,
    Massimo Picardello <picard@axp.mat.uniroma2.it>,
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Per i soci ho scritto un post in tica Italia.
Per lo show penso sarebbe una bella occasione e forse  auto un costo decisamente  gestibile
dal club!
Vorrei solo che ci? non ci mettesse in difficolt? con le  altre associazioni e quindi ognuno
dovrebbe parlere con i contatti  che ha per capire se pu? andare  bene.
Poi vorrei sapere se ci sar?  anche CFA. 
E che range di costo si prevede.
Chiara 

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Date: Fri, 6 Jan 2017 08:17:20 +0000
From: chiara lombardi <chiara_lom@hotmail.com>
To: Il Gatto Blu . <ilgattoblu@hotmail.com>, "gajeur@yahoo.fr" <gajeur@yahoo.fr>,
    Massimo Picardello <picard@axp.mat.uniroma2.it>,
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Marco Vergani ?  il rinnovo della socia Erika Schiavone  ( carta del marito)

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Date: Fri, 6 Jan 2017 15:12:58 +0000 (UTC)
From: genevieve basquine <gajeur@yahoo.fr>
To: Massimo Picardello <picard@axp.mat.uniroma2.it>, chiara lombardi <chiara_lom@hotmail.com>
Cc: Il Gatto Blu . <ilgattoblu@hotmail.com>, Gryfo Bengals <gryfo.bengals@gmail.com>
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Yes for Sara Bianchi
Genevieve

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Date: Mon, 9 Jan 2017 08:48:57 +0000
From: chiara lombardi <chiara_lom@hotmail.com>
To: genevieve basquine <gajeur@yahoo.fr>,
    Massimo Picardello <picard@axp.mat.uniroma2.it>
Cc: Il Gatto Blu . <ilgattoblu@hotmail.com>, Gryfo Bengals <gryfo.bengals@gmail.com>
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Come avevo promesso  ecco il primo piccolo report. Purtroppo abbiamo sbagliato alcune
cose ora chiedo a voi cosa vogliamo fare?
Come vogliamo  procedere ?

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To      : chiara lombardi <chiara_lom@hotmail.com>
Cc      : genevieve basquine <gajeur@yahoo.fr>, 
          "Il Gatto Blu ." <ilgattoblu@hotmail.com>, 
          Gryfo Bengals <gryfo.bengals@gmail.com>
Attchmnt: 
Subject : Re: R: R: R: R: Meeting of TICat Board of Officers, 2.1.2017
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Dear all,
with many apologies to Genevieve, I shall write this reply in Italian,    
because it involves many technical aspects of bookkeeping that are 
essential for the Treasurer more than the Counselor - but I ask Genevieve
to use an online translator and read the contents and reply.
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In realta', alla data dell'agosto 2015 io ero l'unico socio effettivo: nessun altro
aveva pagato la quota. Quindi l'Assemblea consisteva solo di me e dei soci
onorari, che erano stati informati della proposta di delegare
l'organizzazione a sottov=comitati ed erano d'accordo.

Comunque, prpongo che il TICat modifchi il bilancio contabilizzando sia
Chiuduno 2016 sia Novara 2016. Pero' nella contabilita di Chiuduno,
visto che non sono piu' io a pagare me stesso, devo allora
contabilizzare le mie judging fees ed il rimborso chilometrico. Allora
l'attivo di Chiuduno si riduce a 1103,36 Euro. Avevo versato al TICat
333,18 Euro, quindi ne restano da versare 770,18. Pero' il TICat ha usato
il mio equipaggiamento esposizioni a parte le gabbie, ossia carte dei
numeri dei gatti e ribbons (comprati da me per 400 Euro nel 2014 dal Presidente
Emanuela Previtali del club Cat in a Boot, piu' 440 Euro pagati alla ditta
Mr.Wood per podii dei giudici e supporti delle carte dei numeri, piu'
106,5 Euro pagati alla ditta Buffetti per plastificazione delle carte dei
numeri, per un totale di 946,5 Euro. Avevo pensato di non far pagare al
TICat questa somma al fronte del fatto che c'era stato un mio attivo a
Chiuduno, ma se l'attivo e' del TICat e non mio allora il TICat deve
pagare la cifra in oggetto.

Propongo quindi che Alessio contabilizzi in bilancio sia le spese di
Chiuduno 2016 sia quelle di Novara 2016, ed i relativi attivi.
Per Novara c'e' stato un passivo, che a questo punto il TICat dovrebbe
rimborsare. Su questo punto torno fra un attimo.

Se facciamo cosi' il bilancio verra' modificato: il TICat acquisira' da me
l'attivo residuo di Chiuduno di 770,18 Euro, e mi versera' 946,5 Euro per
acquisto di materiale. In altre parole, mi versera' la differenza, pari a
176,32 Euro. Poi, appena possibile, mi restituira' il prezzo delle gabbie,
che al momento e' di circa 1600 Euro, ma stiamo per comprarne altre.

Occorre convocare una Assemblea straordinaria per modificare il bilancio e
per approvare il fatto che i soci possano effettuare prestiti al TICat per
effettuare pagamenti che poi ol TICat rimborsa. Questa modofica statutaria
si deve intendere applicabile anche retroattivamente ai prestiti gia'
effettuati.

Una volta approvata questa norma, possiamo intendere la differenza fra
spese e guadagni della esposizione di Novara, che si e' chiusa con  un
passivo di 96,03 Euro, come un prestito da parte degli organizzatori, e
precisamente di 66,18 da parte mia e 29,86 da parte di Chiara.
Questo naturalmente nella previsione che, entro i termini dovuti, lo
sponsor Monge versi la propria quota di 500 Euro.
Se cio' non avvenisse dovremmo apportare le relative correzioni nel
bilancio 2017.
Al momento lo sponsor verserebbe la sua quota a me. Sarebbe
meglio chiedergli di versarla invece al TICat, ed allora il TICat dovra' a
me altri 500 Euro, quindi la formulazione del bilancio cambiera', perche' io avro'
un passivo di 500 Euro in piu' che il TICat mi dovra' rimborsare.
Questo in effetti significa che la expo di Novara viene considerata chiusa
con un passivo di 500 Euro in piu'a carico di me e Chiara (ma li ho pagati
io, non li ho addebitati a Chiara considerando questa voce une entrata
certa). Qundi in tal caso la modifica di bilancio portera' ad un esborso
da parte del TICat di 742,50 Euro a me e 29,86 a Chiara. Se invece
lasciamo che lo sponsor faccia il pagamento a me, allora il TICat deve
242,50 Euro a me e di 29,86 a Chiara. Il TICat ha un
attivo sufficiente per operare questi pagamenti e quindi chiudere il
bilancio.  Ma occorre che il Board of Officers prenda la decione sul
pagamento da parte dello sponsor, wed in tempi brevi perche' la scadenza
del pagamento e' di 60 giorni dopo l'expo di Novara e ne sono gia' passati
30. Fatemi quindi sapere subito la vostra opinione.

Se siete d'accordo mando tutti i quadri contabili al tesoriere, che
predisporra' i bilanci di conseguenza.

Simultaneamente convochero' l'Assemblea, il che pero' richiede un
preavviso di 15 giorni e quindi verra' convocata dopo l'expo di Chiuduno.
Il revisore dei conti osserva che dovremmo farla per posta certificata,
ma nessuno dei soci ha la posta certificata. Quindi dovremo modificare lo
Statuto per includere il fatto che la identificazione del partecipante
avvenga tramite conferma telefonica al momento dell'inizio del dibattito
(diciamo tramite videochiamata, se possibile). Potremmo fare tutto questo
via Skype, ma non tutti hanno Skype e per grandi gruppi Skype funziona
male. Naturalmente, l'alternativa e' quella standard, ossia che le
assemblee si tengano in presenza nella sede sociale, che e' il mio
appartamento, ma immagino che ci sarei solo io.

Aspetto quindi le vostre risposte. Saluti a tutti,
Massimo

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Date: Mon, 9 Jan 2017 12:05:35 +0000
From: chiara lombardi <chiara_lom@hotmail.com>
To: Massimo Picardello <picard@axp.mat.uniroma2.it>
Cc: genevieve basquine <gajeur@yahoo.fr>, Il Gatto Blu . <ilgattoblu@hotmail.com>,
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Sinceramente  non credo che il tesoriere  possa riportare in bilancio  quelle due expo che
sono transitate sul conto che non gestisce lui e le cui ricevute non sono tutte a nome
Ticat. 
Per il resto Alessio ha sempre asserito che lui ha sempre rinnovato anche nel 2015 quindi
se ci potesse dire se c'era o meno sarebbe l'ideale.
 Se volete posso chiedere un altra  consulenza per capire cosa possiamo fare per andare
avanti evitando gli errori passati e se e come possiamo  correggerli.
Chiara 

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Yes for Sara Bianchi .

Alessio Pasquini

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To: Massimo Picardello <picard@axp.mat.uniroma2.it>, genevieve basquine <gajeur@yahoo.fr>
Cc: chiara lombardi <chiara_lom@hotmail.com>, Gryfo Bengals <gryfo.bengals@gmail.com>
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For me Olga is welcome and all the judges choosen are great, 
I am ok to do Florence show.

Alessio Pasquini

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Date: Mon, 9 Jan 2017 18:21:15 +0000
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To: Massimo Picardello <picard@axp.mat.uniroma2.it>
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Il prestito ha senso per cose ancora da pagare contabilmente credo e non per cose gi? pagate
:(

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Date: Mon, 9 Jan 2017 19:52:52 +0100 (CET)
From: Massimo Picardello <picard@axp.mat.uniroma2.it>
To: chiara lombardi <chiara_lom@hotmail.com>
Cc: genevieve basquine <gajeur@yahoo.fr>, Il Gatto Blu . <ilgattoblu@hotmail.com>,
    Gryfo Bengals <gryfo.bengals@gmail.com>
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Mah... l'Assemblea Generale TICat del 31.12.2014 (che in realta' fu convocata e tenuta il
1.1.2015) delibero' che il Presidente puo' anticipare fino ad un massimo di 1000 Euro e poi
essere rimborsato. Solo per acquisti superiori a 1000 Euro occorre prima convocare il
Consiglio. Questo, per inciso, rende completamente iscrivibili a bilancio tutte le spese
dell'esposizione di Chiuduno 2016, perche' nessuna supero' i 1000 Euro. Invece vi fu una
spesa per Novara 2016 che supero' i 1000 Euro, quella dell'affitto della sala. Pero' per
essa ricevemmo una richiesta del Comune di Novara inf=dirizzata a Angelo Massimo
Piccardello Presidente Associazione TICat. Vista l'intestazione potremmo considerare questa
spesa addebitata al TICat. Certo, l'ho pagata io e non il TICat, e quindi l'unico problema
e' che ho ecceduto il limite di spesa. Non so se sia quindi possibile trasferire tutta
l'operazione Novara 2016 l TICat, ma mi pare che l'eccedere il limite di 1000 Euro senza
autorizzazione del Consiglio Direttivo sia una infrazione sanabile in qualche modo. In quel
periodo, fra l'altro, il Consiglio era in riunione
(era poco dopo il weekend di Ginevra, e forse di queste spese avevamo parlato
proprio a Ginevra, quando spiegavo perche' il TICat da solo non poteva gestire
finaziariamente quello show).

Massimo Picardello

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Date: Mon, 9 Jan 2017 18:30:16 +0000
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To: chiara lombardi <chiara_lom@hotmail.com>,
    Massimo Picardello <picard@axp.mat.uniroma2.it>
Cc: genevieve basquine <gajeur@yahoo.fr>, Gryfo Bengals <gryfo.bengals@gmail.com>
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Come faccio a contabilizzare spese che non sono passate dal conto Ticat e alcune tra
l'altro pagate in contanti?
Sono spese gia fatte e contabilizzate dal tesoriere di quell'anno, io dovrei cambiare il
bilancio gia approvato dal Board e assumermene le responsabilita?

Riguardo alla quota mia del 2015 ,l'ho pagata a Novembre 2015, se non la ritenete valida la
detraggo dal bilancio oppure ditemi voi.

Alessio Pasquini

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Date: Mon, 9 Jan 2017 20:14:10 +0100 (CET)
From: Massimo Picardello <picard@axp.mat.uniroma2.it>
To: Il Gatto Blu . <ilgattoblu@hotmail.com>
Cc: chiara lombardi <chiara_lom@hotmail.com>, genevieve basquine <gajeur@yahoo.fr>,
    Gryfo Bengals <gryfo.bengals@gmail.com>
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Alssio, il tuo pagamento 2015 era perfettamente valido. Lo facesti a novembre 2015 ed io ti
suggerii che lo contabilizzassimo per il 2016, Ma tu dicesti di no ed infatti poi ripagasti
la quota nel 2016. Quindi tu fosti socio TICat dal 12 novembre 2015 al 31 gennaio 2016, e
poi di nuovo dal 18 febbraio 2016 ad adesso. La data del 18 febbraio 2016 e' quella in cui
il Board ratifico le iscrizioni iniziali 2016 - il tuo pagamentonera avvenuto l'8 febbraio
e quindi la tua iscrizione dovette essere riconfermata dal Board. E' tutto in regola.

Massimo Picardello

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Date: Mon, 9 Jan 2017 18:56:55 +0000
From: chiara lombardi <chiara_lom@hotmail.com>
To: Massimo Picardello <picard@axp.mat.uniroma2.it>
Cc: genevieve basquine <gajeur@yahoo.fr>, Il Gatto Blu . <ilgattoblu@hotmail.com>,
    Gryfo Bengals <gryfo.bengals@gmail.com>
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Massimo io credo che tutto il pregresso non sia valido per modalit? errate quindi non mi
fiderei  a basarsi su di esso rischiamo di fare pasticci ancora pi? grandi. La fretta qui non
pu? essere consigliera le cose vanno fatte per bene.
Chiara

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Date: Mon, 9 Jan 2017 18:57:50 +0000
From: chiara lombardi <chiara_lom@hotmail.com>
To: Massimo Picardello <picard@axp.mat.uniroma2.it>
Cc: genevieve basquine <gajeur@yahoo.fr>, Il Gatto Blu . <ilgattoblu@hotmail.com>,
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E poi 1000 euro totali? Ad operazione ? Annui?
?  un pochino  complicato 

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Date: Tue, 10 Jan 2017 06:44:17 +0000
From: chiara lombardi <chiara_lom@hotmail.com>
To: Massimo Picardello <picard@axp.mat.uniroma2.it>,
    Il Gatto Blu . <ilgattoblu@hotmail.com>
Cc: genevieve basquine <gajeur@yahoo.fr>, Gryfo Bengals <gryfo.bengals@gmail.com>
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Cmq per Firenze  Il mio voto ?  a favore 

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Date: Tue, 10 Jan 2017 23:34:39 +0100 (CET)
From: Massimo Picardello <picard@axp.mat.uniroma2.it>
To: Il Gatto Blu . <ilgattoblu@hotmail.com>
Cc: chiara lombardi <chiara_lom@hotmail.com>, genevieve basquine <gajeur@yahoo.fr>, Gryfo Bengals <gryfo.bengals@gmail.com>
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My dears,
I am negotiating with ENFI for the financial terms of the Florence show.

ENFI requests 500 Euros for general expenses. This seems reasonable to me, it is not much.

Of course they demand that all entries born in Italy will have an Italian pedigree. I hope that a request of transcription
will be enough, I have not asked this yet. If the transcription is with ENFI, then the ENFI registration number will be
issued in time, because they do not request a morphological validation but only a genealogical one, that is much faster.
However, in his case the "escamotage" of considering sufficient a self-declaration of the exhibitor will not hold: the
exhibitor will have to show the documents in advance.

Moreover, ENFI asks our exhibitor (but not forces them) to enter their cats also in the ENFI show. But for this only a
ridiculously low entry fee will be requested. I will negotiate it tomorrow, but it will be around 10 Euros. I suggest that
we offer our exhibitors that want to enter the ENFI show a discount of 10 Euros, plus additional 10 Euros to our exhibitors
who have transcribed a foreign pedigree to an Italian genealogical
book past September 1st. In this way, those TICA exhibitors who will show also in ENFI and for this need to transcribe their
pedigrees will actually py nothing for the ENFI competition and will have 10 Euros back for their Italian pedigree (plus 5
Euros from me if the transcription is done by ENFI because I'll give them back my compensation for the genealogical
validation). I have  been paying a similar amount for similar purposes at the last and at the current show.
The motivation is clear and reasonable: ENFI wants to have a higher count in its catalogue, to justify why they spend a lot
of money for that expensive show hall.

I shall negotiate tomorrow what we'll get for freevconcerning tables and chairs and cages - but now I really need to know
from Barbara how much it
would cost to carry our cages from Robecco sul Naviglio to Florence and back, otherwise I cannot negotiate.

Barbara please let me have this information, and all officers please let me have their comments.

Thanks,
Massimo

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Date: Wed, 11 Jan 2017 06:55:16 +0000
From: chiara lombardi <chiara_lom@hotmail.com>
To: Massimo Picardello <picard@axp.mat.uniroma2.it>, Il Gatto Blu . <ilgattoblu@hotmail.com>
Cc: genevieve basquine <gajeur@yahoo.fr>, Gryfo Bengals <gryfo.bengals@gmail.com>
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Se si tengono tutti gli ingressi perch? chiederci 500 euro?

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Date: Wed, 11 Jan 2017 08:46:42 +0100 (CET)
From: Massimo Picardello <picard@axp.mat.uniroma2.it>
To: chiara lombardi <chiara_lom@hotmail.com>
Cc: Il Gatto Blu . <ilgattoblu@hotmail.com>, genevieve basquine <gajeur@yahoo.fr>,
    Gryfo Bengals <gryfo.bengals@gmail.com>
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I clubs ENFI pagano all'ENFI una quota, indipendente dagli ingressi ossia dal ricavo, per spese
organizzative generali. L'ENFI chiede a noi la nostra parte della quota. Posso provare a negoziare, ma
non con grande probabilita' di successo. Pero' spero di ottenere qualcosa di utile su tavoli, sedie e
gabbie.

Massimo Picardello

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Date: Wed, 11 Jan 2017 11:15:04 +0100
From: Gryfo Bengals <gryfo.bengals@gmail.com>
To: Massimo Picardello <picard@axp.mat.uniroma2.it>
Cc: chiara lombardi <chiara_lom@hotmail.com>, Il Gatto Blu . <ilgattoblu@hotmail.com>,
    genevieve basquine <gajeur@yahoo.fr>
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Caro Massimo,ho parlato col padre di Jonathan e abbiamo un problema. Loro hanno chiuso la vecchia
societ? e ne hanno riaperto una nuova, hanno parlato col commercialista e stanno aspettando tutta la
relativa documentazione inerente all'apertura con corrispettiva iscrizione all'albo degli
autotrasportatori e licenza per i trasporti. Loro si stanno appoggiando a colleghi aventi la stessa
tipologia di lavoro per trasportare mobili e per lavorare ma sono tutti lavori in zona e tenuti sotto
controllo (come sarebbe anche per Chiuduno). Andare fino a Firenze sarebbe un problema: non mi sanno
dire se questa documentazione sar? gi? in vigore o no, purtroppo non mi sanno dare la risposta che ci serve
ora e per la loro e nostra sicurezza se dovessero essere fermati non possono garantirci di avere gi? una
licenza in regola. Dobbiamo pensare ad una soluzione,
Barbara 

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Date: Wed, 11 Jan 2017 11:37:08 +0100 (CET)
From: Massimo Picardello <picard@axp.mat.uniroma2.it>
To: Gryfo Bengals <gryfo.bengals@gmail.com>
Cc: chiara lombardi <chiara_lom@hotmail.com>, Il Gatto Blu . <ilgattoblu@hotmail.com>,
    genevieve basquine <gajeur@yahoo.fr>
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Ok. Jonathan conosce dei colleghi che abbiano la licenza e possano trasportare il materiale? Quanto ci
costerebbe?

Massimo Picardello

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Date: Wed, 11 Jan 2017 11:49:54 +0100
From: Gryfo Bengals <gryfo.bengals@gmail.com>
To: Massimo Picardello <picard@axp.mat.uniroma2.it>
Cc: chiara lombardi <chiara_lom@hotmail.com>, Il Gatto Blu . <ilgattoblu@hotmail.com>,
    genevieve basquine <gajeur@yahoo.fr>
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Posso provare a chiederglielo. Spero di farti sapere a breve 

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To      : Gryfo Bengals <gryfo.bengals@gmail.com>
Cc      : chiara lombardi <chiara_lom@hotmail.com>, 
          "Il Gatto Blu ." <ilgattoblu@hotmail.com>, 
          genevieve basquine <gajeur@yahoo.fr>
Attchmnt: 
Subject : Re: Meeting of TICat Board of Officers, 2.1.2017
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Dear all,
I have negotiated both with the ENFI management and with Elena Bongi, the
organizer of the Florence show. Unlless the ENFI management will oppose   
our proposal, what we think to do is:

-       all entries born in Italy must have an Italian legal pedigrre (or,
I believe, proof that the transcription has been requested);
-       each entry of our show can be shown also in ENFI at the symbolic
entry fee of 10 Euros, and conversely each entry of ENFI will also be 
accepted in TICA at the same symbolic entry fee;
-       we shall pay ENFI the organization quota of 500 Euros, BUT we will
receive tables and cages for free, provided there is enough availability  
and we do not ask too much. We shall know by saturday evening what is the
availability. I have asked 25 double cages (that is, space for 10 cats at
each of 5 rings). I cannot figure out how many tables we need, but it is  
easier to get tables than cages, and if we need a lot of tables this means
that we have a lot of entries and then we'll have a good profit and can   
pay for a few more tables if necessary. This point is very important 
because Barbara told us that our cages cannot be brought to Florence at
a low price: if we need to hire a carrier both friday and sunday night we
shall probably spend more than 500 Euros.

Also, Elena is likely to get a good price at a mnearby hotel, and all our
judges leave sunday night, so the hotel cost will be not high, I hope. We
shall probably know this by saturday. Please let me know if you consider

Please let me know if you all agree and I can finalize the negotiation.

Thanks,
Massimo

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Date: Wed, 11 Jan 2017 14:56:48 +0000
From: chiara lombardi <chiara_lom@hotmail.com>
To: Massimo Picardello <picard@axp.mat.uniroma2.it>
Cc: Il Gatto Blu . <ilgattoblu@hotmail.com>, genevieve basquine <gajeur@yahoo.fr>, Gryfo Bengals <gryfo.bengals@gmail.com>
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Se ci danno tavoli sedie e gabbie pu? essere accettabile senn? no a mio avviso 

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Date: Thu, 12 Jan 2017 08:45:02 +0000
From: chiara lombardi <chiara_lom@hotmail.com>
To: Massimo Picardello <picard@axp.mat.uniroma2.it>, Gryfo Bengals <gryfo.bengals@gmail.com>
Cc: Il Gatto Blu . <ilgattoblu@hotmail.com>, genevieve basquine <gajeur@yahoo.fr>
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Cmq a cfa non hanno fatto pagare a Roma e questo non ?  affatto carino 

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To      : chiara lombardi <chiara_lom@hotmail.com>
Cc      : Gryfo Bengals <gryfo.bengals@gmail.com>, 
          "Il Gatto Blu ." <ilgattoblu@hotmail.com>, 
          genevieve basquine <gajeur@yahoo.fr>
Attchmnt: 
Subject : Re: R: Meeting of TICat Board of Officers, 2.1.2017
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Chiara, al CFA non avranno fatto pagare a Roma, pero' li hanno costretti  
ad iscriversi tutti all'ENFI se non avevano gia' un pedigree italiano. Io
a questo per Firenze mi sono opposto. Preferiresti l'iscrizione forzata   
all'ENFI?
Poi a Roma sono andati in passivo, e questo spiega perche' sono piu' 
cauti. L'ENFI riceve una percentuale sugli incassi, e visto il rischio del
passivo (la sala a Firenze e' molto costosa) si premunisce.

Massimo Picardello

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Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2017 22:04:25 +0100 (CET)
From: Massimo Picardello <picard@axp.mat.uniroma2.it>
To: chiara lombardi <chiara_lom@hotmail.com>
Cc: Gryfo Bengals <gryfo.bengals@gmail.com>, Il Gatto Blu . <ilgattoblu@hotmail.com>,
    genevieve basquine <gajeur@yahoo.fr>
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Dear Officers,
'after many thouf=ggts jointly with Alessio and Roberto, I would like to propose the
following plan for the Florence show.

Pool of judges: Allen, Berthelon, Garel, Holmes, myself, Remy, Vlach and Dentico.

Aline Garel has been convinced by alessio to ask only around 250 Euros for airfare, and
Alessio thinks that, with aline, Pascal and me, he will be able to attract several
Sphynx breeders (but not enough for a congress). Alessio is the show manager, and of
course he proposes the judges to the Board of TICat, but as previously agreed he is
allowedto take decisions quickly if necessary, and it was necessary to buy the tickets,
so most tickets have already been bought. I hope you agree with the choice of judges.

Two of these judges (I propose Allen and myself) will judge for ENFI on Saturday, and
other two (I propose Berthelon and Holmes) on Sunday. This is (hopefully) compatible
with the departing flight schedules.

We could have two congresses Saturday. For instance:
"Ragdolls and other Pointed Cats"
"Tabby cats"
Please approve or give other suggestions.

Now, the price list of entry fees. We have had a lot of erros by exhibitors forgetting
to pay fot the PatPal surcharges or the catalog. So, Roberto and I propose to f=give the
calatolog for free (this means giving up around 300 euros, but to us the catalog
typically costs 100 Euros or a little more), and including the 5 Euros PayPal surcharge
into the entry fee of each cat (up to now it was once per exhibitor; typically, the real
charge by PayPal is between 2 and 3 Euros per cat.

Moreover, if cats are shown both in TICA and ENFI, we would apply a unique fee of 80
Euros/cat if paid via bank transfer (85 if paid via PayPal). Then we shall split the
money with ENFI.

Here is the entry fee table:

                                        2 days                  1 day

EARLY BIRD (paid before Feb.15)         55  (bank transfer)     not available
                                        60  (PayPal)            not available

REGULAR (TICA only)                     70  (bank transfer)     60  (bank transfer)
                                        75  (PayPal)            65 (PayPal)
                                        80  (cash at show)      70  (cash at show)

REGULAR (TICA and ENFI)                 80  (bank transfer)     70  (bank transfer)
                                        85  (PayPal)            75 (PayPal)
                                        90  (cash at show)      80  (cash at show)

As usual, TICat members will have 10% discount. As before, Roberto, Alessio and I
propose to replace this dicount with a deduction of 20 Euros for our members who show
cats born in Italy, having a TICA registration and an Italian legal pedigree obtained or
requested after September 1 (or, say, in the last 6 months). I propose also to give a
deduction of 10 Euros in
the same situation to exhibitors who are not our club's members, since this would help
them to be friendlier and might attract a few more to our show. Roberto would not make
this concession to wxhibitors who are not TICat members, n=but in any case, he thinks
that the Board of Officers shoud decide one way ot=r the other for the next shows (let
us say this year). So far, we have not paid many deductions of this type, because
several exhibitors did not send the documentation. Some did send self-declaration without
any document attached, but now that we do a joint show with ENFI, and hopefully later
with ANFI, we cannot accept these declarations. Please send me your opinion.

Your opinion is necessary to prepare the flyer (I attach a draft) and the flyer is
necessary to ask the license (and ENFI needs to know which judge will judge when). So
please let me have your opinions very soon. Since most of these data has already been
submitted to you, and since we can always change the flyer later on, and moreover
Alessio agrees and, as far as I understand, genevieve agrees on may points, I shall
assume that all this a=is approved if I do not receive a request to wait by tomorrow
evening (Wednesday: I shall be away for the WCF General Assembly from Thursday to
Monday).

Best regards,
Massimo

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Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2017 21:17:16 +0100
From: Gryfo Bengals <gryfo.bengals@gmail.com>
To: genevieve basquine <gajeur@yahoo.fr>
Cc: Massimo Picardello <picard@axp.mat.uniroma2.it>, chiara lombardi <chiara_lom@hotmail.com>,
    Il Gatto Blu . <ilgattoblu@hotmail.com>
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Dear All, I approve everything concerning this show and after these previews I can already day it will be a
success!
See you all in Chiuduno
Barbara 

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Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2017 21:41:58 +0100 (CET)
From: Massimo Picardello <picard@axp.mat.uniroma2.it>
To: chiara lombardi <chiara_lom@hotmail.com>
Cc: Gryfo Bengals <gryfo.bengals@gmail.com>, Il Gatto Blu . <ilgattoblu@hotmail.com>,
    genevieve basquine <gajeur@yahoo.fr>
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Dear Officers,
concerning the show plan for Florence, I agree with genevieve's proposal to name the Ragdoll and Other
ointed cats Congress simply as Pointed Cats. We should easily reach the minimum number of 20 entries,
thanks to the Ragdolls and Birmans and Thai and Sphynx and Himalayans. Well, maybe the Hymalaina will not
compete, I do not know.

Also, I rsubmit the proposal to invite Olga Dentico as gurst judge just for the Congresses on Saturday (she
can train on Sunday). You have alfeady approved this proposal previously, but it is nice if I can place it
here in the minutes, so I repeat it here.

Please send me your opinions on th epreviously submitted plan with these modificatioms. As scheduled., I
shall assume that you all agree unless any of you asks me to delay the decision - I shall apply for the
TICA license at 10:30 local time (and Open the show in TOES, since everything can be changed later in
TOES).

I am looking forward to your replies.
Massimo

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Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2017 21:28:36 +0000
From: Il Gatto Blu . <ilgattoblu@hotmail.com>
To: Massimo Picardello <picard@axp.mat.uniroma2.it>, genevieve basquine <gajeur@yahoo.fr>
Cc: chiara lombardi <chiara_lom@hotmail.com>, Gryfo Bengals <gryfo.bengals@gmail.com>
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I would like to propose a Sphynx Cogress because many breeders of Sphynx will come to Florence and would be
great for them can have this congress.

Alessio Pasquini

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Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2017 22:44:09 +0100
From: Gryfo Bengals <gryfo.bengals@gmail.com>
To: Il Gatto Blu . <ilgattoblu@hotmail.com>
Cc: Massimo Picardello <picard@axp.mat.uniroma2.it>, genevieve basquine <gajeur@yahoo.fr>,
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If we can reach the Number easily no problem to add the sphynx congress :)

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Date: Mon, 23 Jan 2017 05:32:38 +0100 (CET)
From: Massimo Picardello <picard@axp.mat.uniroma2.it>
To: Gryfo Bengals <gryfo.bengals@gmail.com>
Cc: chiara lombardi <chiara_lom@hotmail.com>, Il Gatto Blu . <ilgattoblu@hotmail.com>,
    genevieve basquine <gajeur@yahoo.fr>
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Dear TICat Officers,
the show in Chiuduno is now at the last operations - the most tiring, but no decisions
still need to be taken. Instead, we may need planning for the Florence show, and most
certainly decision on the next shows, OnSafari in October and perhaps a joint show with
ANFI in Rome in November. Since Irene van Belzen will be present in Chiuduno, we must
finalize our decisions concerning On Safari. Like I said, I will not be the organizing
manager at On Safari, but by now I have taught enough to Roerto, Barbara and Alessio and
they can go on alone. Of course I shall help in all ways as I am doing now, but I will not
do preparation and trasport of show equipment - in that period of the year I have no day
free. So I propose to comclude the current Board meeting, still going on, at the Chiuduno
show to talk about these matters. Unfortunately Chiara will not be present - we may
communicate with her via Skype if she will be online. I hope that you will all attend the
banquet saturday night - if we sit together at the same table we may do our meeting there.
If not, at the show hall.
Best,
Massimo

——————————As a result, the Ministry is now against joint shows where are exhibited cats    
living in Italy but not having an Italian legal pedigree. This is a more severe requirement than what the Ministry wrote us in November in his official opinion: there he requested Italian pedigrees only to cats born in Italy, but now his new interpretation is “cats living in Italy”, that is, bred OR IMPORTED by an Italian breeder. As Mr. Domancich told me, this means that the presence of these cats is only compatible with a presentation, not a competition show.

I believe that it is vital for TICat now to have joint shows with the Italian official associations.
ANFI and ENFI and AFEF, all three, and also the others if possible.
The first opportunity is with ENFI in Florence. If that show goes well, it will be easier to have a joint show with ANFI.
Of course, now, in order to allow cats to our Florence show, we must ask that the cat, if belonging to an Italian breeder, has an Italian pedigree issued by ANFI, ENFI or AFEF: neither of these three organization would allow us to participate in a joint show otherwise. We should change our flyer accordingly.

We have decided to give discounts to such cats born in Italy to pay for the cost of the pedigree (up to 20 Euros, for TICat members). Now we should extend this bonus to those cats imported by Italian breeders. Of course, to those cats who compete both in TICA and in Traditional we are applying the unbelievably low fee of 80 Euros, of which TICat will only get 55 Euros. We cannot afford more discounts.
So, if the Chiuduno show will end with adequate profit (at the moment I have a deficit of several hundreds Euros, but I expect to have a good number of visitors and and up with some profit), I am ready to pay myself for these additionl discounts, up to the total amount of the profit.

We shall meet saturday night, but I preferred to open this discussion now since Chiara will attend our meeting only online, and speaking in person is much faster and easier, so she will not have the same chances to be part of the discussion - on email everybody has the same chance.

Please let me know your opinion on my proposal: change the requirement of access to the Florence show and allow me to offer a bonus.

Massimo

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To      : Gryfo Bengals <gryfo.bengals@gmail.com>
Cc      : chiara lombardi <chiara_lom@hotmail.com>, 
          "Il Gatto Blu ." <ilgattoblu@hotmail.com>, 
          genevieve basquine <gajeur@yahoo.fr>
Attchmnt: 
Subject : Re: Meeting of TICat Board of Officers, 2.1.2017
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Ora e' domenica 28. Mi dispiace che ieri sera la sala del ristorante fosse
troppo rumorosa per una conversazione dia Skype. Quattro membri erano 
presenti fid=sicamente, e c'era Irene van Belzen con cui sono stae 
concordate strategie per On Safari. Le scelte sulla sala espositiva sono  
ancora fluttuanti.
Per Firenze, e' indispensabile che iv gatti nati in Italia o residenti in
Italia abbiano un pedigree italiano. Il Ministero insiste con i libri 
origini su questo punto, e quindi non possiamo partecipare senza 
adeguarci. Purtroppo, una omissione volontaria dell'Entry Clerk di 
Chiuduno ha vanificato lo sforzo di avviarci verso l'acquisizione di pedigree
a questa esposizione, ma ora dovremo per forza adeguarci. Abbiamo 
concordato di scrivere l'informazione sul flyer.

Short summary in English: yesterday only 4 officers were present, the 5th
was absent but justified. There was no way to connect via Skype.
The On Safari preparation continued with the help of Irene van Belzen who
was present.
For the Florence show, the Ministry insists with the genealogical 
registries that cats living in Italy will be shown only with Italian 
pedigrees. So we have to accept this, otjerwise ENFI will not accept us   
at a joint show, and neither will ANFI. We have to add this to the flyer.
Everyone present agrees.

Best regards,
Massimo

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Date: Tue, 31 Jan 2017 17:53:58 +0100 (CET)
From: Massimo Picardello <picard@axp.mat.uniroma2.it>
To: Gryfo Bengals <gryfo.bengals@gmail.com>
Cc: chiara lombardi <chiara_lom@hotmail.com>, Il Gatto Blu . <ilgattoblu@hotmail.com>,
    genevieve basquine <gajeur@yahoo.fr>
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Dear Officers,
the time is almost ready for the election of the Board.
In the letter sent by the accountant of Chiara there was a criticism on the fact that the Asembly was organized
by regular email instead than certified email. Ok, maybe all of us may open an account of certified email, it
does not cost much. But perhaps not the foreigners.

However, certainly the Statute of the association asks for election whose secrecy is guaranteed. If we do the
elections in the Associations address it is easy, but then t]very few members would come and vote. I propose to
do the elections online, by using the services of a specialized service provider. I have contacted Polyas, a
provider of online election services based in Germany. Since we have so few electors, they offer this service for
29 Euros plus tax. TICat's finances can clearly afford this - if not, I can pay the amount on my own. Please tell
me if you approve.

The next step will be to collect the list of emails of the members and send them a test message to verify that
their email accounts work properly. I can do this in the next days.

I remind you that in Florence ENFI will only accept the joint show if all TICat's entries born or living in Italy
have an Italian official pedigree - they must have the pedigree, an application to ask for it is not enough. ENFI
will verify the data. I think that you all agree (Chiara did not reply to the previous message on this issue
where I proposed to change the flyer accordingly, so I presume that, since she did not announce to be against,
she is in favor).

If I do not hear from you before, tomorrow I shall sign the invoice of Polyas for acceptance. The price is very
competitive. We might use the same system to vote at the General Assemblies.

Best regards,
Massimo

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Date: Tue, 31 Jan 2017 17:03:28 +0000
From: chiara lombardi <chiara_lom@hotmail.com>
To: Massimo Picardello <picard@axp.mat.uniroma2.it>, Gryfo Bengals <gryfo.bengals@gmail.com>
Cc: Il Gatto Blu . <ilgattoblu@hotmail.com>, genevieve basquine <gajeur@yahoo.fr>
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I think  this is a great  idea I approve that and I understand  that with  enfi all cat must be registered  in
have allready  send in my kitten pedigree 

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Date: Wed, 1 Feb 2017 10:43:37 +0000
From: chiara lombardi <chiara_lom@hotmail.com>
To: genevieve basquine <gajeur@yahoo.fr>, Il Gatto Blu . <ilgattoblu@hotmail.com>,
    Massimo Picardello <picard@axp.mat.uniroma2.it>, Gryfo Bengals <gryfo.bengals@gmail.com>
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Possiamo avere una lista aggiornata  degli aventi diritto  al voto??

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Date: Wed, 1 Feb 2017 13:34:09 +0100 (CET)
From: Massimo Picardello <picard@axp.mat.uniroma2.it>
To: chiara lombardi <chiara_lom@hotmail.com>
Cc: genevieve basquine <gajeur@yahoo.fr>, Il Gatto Blu . <ilgattoblu@hotmail.com>,
    Gryfo Bengals <gryfo.bengals@gmail.com>
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Ho gia' chiesto la lista ad Alessio, che e' l'unico che l'abbia.

Massimo Picardello

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Date: Tue, 31 Jan 2017 17:03:28 +0000
From: chiara lombardi <chiara_lom@hotmail.com>
To: Massimo Picardello <picard@axp.mat.uniroma2.it>,
    Gryfo Bengals <gryfo.bengals@gmail.com>
Cc: Il Gatto Blu . <ilgattoblu@hotmail.com>, genevieve basquine <gajeur@yahoo.fr>
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I think  this is a great  idea I approve that and I understand  that with  enfi
all cat must be registered  in have allready  send in my kitten pedigree 

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Date: Sat, 4 Feb 2017 09:12:01 +0100 (CET)
From: Massimo Picardello <picard@axp.mat.uniroma2.it>
To: chiara lombardi <chiara_lom@hotmail.com>
Cc: Gryfo Bengals <gryfo.bengals@gmail.com>,
    Il Gatto Blu . <ilgattoblu@hotmail.com>, genevieve basquine <gajeur@yahoo.fr>
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Cari Officers,
nella relazione che ci ha inviato il revisore dei conti, si segnala che l'uso
della email o di altri strumenti di comunicazione telematica non certificati non
garantisce la sicurezza dell'identita' degli interlocutori alla Assemblea
Generale. In effetti, normalmente le Assemblee si svolgono in presenza, ma nel
nostro caso, visto che siamo sparsi in tutta Italia, questo e' difficile.
Neppure una partecipazione via Skype garantirebbe l'identita', ed inoltre in
precedenti esperienze abbiamo visto che varie persone non riescono a connettersi
od a restare connessi. Con circa 40 membri e' quasi impossibile un collegamento
simultaneo stabile via Skype, in effetti, vista la
larghezza di banda della rete italiana. Inoltre sarebbe pressoche' impossibile
dare la parola ordinatamente a ciascuno che la chiede. Io propongo di recepire
l'osservazione ed utilizzare, per le future Assemblee, la posta elettronica
certificata. Ci sono providers che la forniscono gratis per sei mesi; ma in ogni
caso, i fornitori principali, come Aruba, la forniscono a sei euro all'anno, una
cifra accettabile, e ci vogliono pochi minuti per attivarla. Vi prego di
esprimere il vostro parere.

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Date: Sat, 4 Feb 2017 09:12:01 +0100 (CET)
From: Massimo Picardello <picard@axp.mat.uniroma2.it>
To: chiara lombardi <chiara_lom@hotmail.com>
Cc: Gryfo Bengals <gryfo.bengals@gmail.com>,
    Il Gatto Blu . <ilgattoblu@hotmail.com>, genevieve basquine <gajeur@yahoo.fr>
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Cari Officers,
nella relazione che ci ha inviato il revisore dei conti, si segnala che l'uso
della email o di altri strumenti di comunicazioine telematica non certificati non
garantisce la sicurezza dell'identita' degli intelocutori alla Assemblea
Generale. In effetti, normalmente le Assemblee si svolgono in presenza, ma nel
nostro caso, visto che siamo sparsi in tutta Italia, questo e' difficile.
Neppure una partecipazione via Skype garantirebbe l'identita', ed inolyre in
prcedenti esperienze abbiamo visto che varie persone non riescono a connettersi
od a restare connessi. Con circa 40 mebri e' quasi impossibile un collegamento
simultaneo stabile via Skype, in effetti, vista la
larghezza di banda della rete italiana. Inoltre sarebbe pressoche' impossibile
dare la parola ordinatamente a ciascuno che la chiede. Io propongo di recepire
l'osservazione ed utilizzare, per le future Assemblee, la posta elettronica
certificata. Ci sono providers che la forniscono gratis per sei mesi; ma in ogni
caso, i fornitori principali, come Aruba, la forniscono a sei euro all'anno, una
cifra accettabile, e ci vogliono pochi minuti per attivarla. Vi prego di
esprimere il vostro parere.

Massimo Picardello

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Date: Sat, 4 Feb 2017 10:01:00 +0000
From: chiara lombardi <chiara_lom@hotmail.com>
To: Massimo Picardello <picard@axp.mat.uniroma2.it>
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Direi assolutamente  si alle expo congiunte.
Per il resto la pacifica convivenza  e la collaborazione  per me non necessita alcun accordo
scritto come tra l'altro espresso da tutti i membri  italiani che non volevano  questo tipo di
accordo.

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Date: Sat, 4 Feb 2017 13:52:53 +0100 (CET)
From: Massimo Picardello <picard@axp.mat.uniroma2.it>
To: chiara lombardi <chiara_lom@hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: R: R: Meeting of TICat Board of Officers, 2.1.2017

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Resta pero' la questione dell'esigenza di pedigree itaiani per i gatti italiani che vanno in
esposizione. Il Ministro ce lo ha richiesto. Come vogliamo regolarla? Un accordo era un modo
possibile. Un altro modo e'
inserirla nel nostro Statuto.

Massimo Picardello

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Date: Sat, 4 Feb 2017 13:11:53 +0000
From: chiara lombardi <chiara_lom@hotmail.com>
To: Massimo Picardello <picard@axp.mat.uniroma2.it>
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Ognuno ha il dovere di iscrivere i gatti non sta a noi regolare ci?. Una modifica  dello statuto ha
bisogno  della maggioranza  in una assemblea ed ?  impossibile  pensare che voteranno a favore tutti
quelli che hanno votato no all'accordo. 
In sunto non credo sia una cosa che dobbiamo regolare noi siamo solo un club pensiamo a fare le
expo e crescere.
Penso che questa sia una cosa lunghissima  questa discussione  forse la rimanderei  a un assemblea
generale in futuro. 
Magari dal vivo a Firenze 

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Date: Sat, 4 Feb 2017 14:25:38 +0100 (CET)
From: Massimo Picardello <picard@axp.mat.uniroma2.it>
To: chiara lombardi <chiara_lom@hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: R: R: R: Meeting of TICat Board of Officers, 2.1.2017

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Ok. Ma come ci regoliamo per le accettazioni dei  gatti alle prossime esposizioni? Poiche' d'ora
in poi esse saranno organizzate direttamente dal TICat, e' questo Board of Officers che deve
prenere questa decisione. Applichiamo d'ora in poi le regole che stiamo applicando a Firenze?

Massimo Picardello

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Date: Sat, 4 Feb 2017 15:17:17 +0000
From: chiara lombardi <chiara_lom@hotmail.com>
To: Massimo Picardello <picard@axp.mat.uniroma2.it>
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Ci sar? votazione prima di ogni show e ovviamente  le regole saranno queste per gli show congiunti
con le associazioni  mipaaf.

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Cc      : 
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Subject : Re: R: R: R: R: Meeting of TICat Board of Officers, 2.1.2017
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Se cambiamo le regole di volta in volta questo confondera' gli espositori.

Massimo Picardello

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Date: Sat, 4 Feb 2017 15:37:46 +0000
From: chiara lombardi <chiara_lom@hotmail.com>
To: Massimo Picardello <picard@axp.mat.uniroma2.it>
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Ci si atterra' anche a quello che fanno le associazioni  con cui faremo show congiunti 

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Date: Sat, 4 Feb 2017 15:54:28 +0000
From: chiara lombardi <chiara_lom@hotmail.com>
To: Massimo Picardello <picard@axp.mat.uniroma2.it>
Cc: genevieve basquine <gajeur@yahoo.fr>, Il Gatto Blu . <ilgattoblu@hotmail.com>,
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Before on safari  we will vote so to decide

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From: Massimo Picardello <picard@axp.mat.uniroma2.it>
To: chiara lombardi <chiara_lom@hotmail.com>
Cc: genevieve basquine <gajeur@yahoo.fr>, Il Gatto Blu . <ilgattoblu@hotmail.com>,
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But it cannot work this way. If we change the entry rules, then our members will simply skip the joint shows
and wait for the shows done only by TICat. This will have the effect of reducing the counts at the joint shows
- for instance the forthcoming Florence show.

Massimo Picardello

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To: Massimo Picardello <picard@axp.mat.uniroma2.it>, chiara lombardi <chiara_lom@hotmail.com>
Cc: Gryfo Bengals <gryfo.bengals@gmail.com>, genevieve basquine <gajeur@yahoo.fr>
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Ciao  tutti,

per me va bene qualunque mezzo.

La posta certificata io la ho gia in quanto ho una attivita commerciale.

Alessio Pasquini

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Io proporrei di non metterci nella posizione di penalizzare lo show di Firenze,
in quanto ? la prima esposizione finanziata e organizzata dal club,
se questa esposizione non andra' bene non ci saranno fondi per la prossima esposizione, in quanto ? stato deciso
che solamente il club puo finanziare uno show Ticat.
Se lo show di Firenze andra male molto probabilmente perderemo quei pochi espositori italiani ,
facendo questo show congiunto abbiamo la possibilita di fare conoscere il Tica ad espositori Enfi e come per
lo show di Saint Raphael (uno dei migliori al mondo)  possiamo avere all'interno dello stesso show il giudizio
Tica e quello Tradizionale.
Il punto che ci ha spinto a riunirci a Ginevra era la chiusura del TDS che nessuno di noi vorrebbe.
Per quanto riguarda gli show, tutto quello che puo portare al club una maggiore visibilita ed espositori per
me va bene.

Alessio Pasquini

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Date: Sat, 4 Feb 2017 18:43:56 +0000
From: chiara lombardi <chiara_lom@hotmail.com>
To: Il Gatto Blu . <ilgattoblu@hotmail.com>, Massimo Picardello <picard@axp.mat.uniroma2.it>
Cc: genevieve basquine <gajeur@yahoo.fr>, Gryfo Bengals <gryfo.bengals@gmail.com>
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Degli altri show si discuter? dopo Firenze  quindi non vedo come ci?  possa penalizzare questo show che stiamo tra
l'altro  promuovendo tutti :)

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Date: Sat, 4 Feb 2017 19:16:06 +0000
From: chiara lombardi <chiara_lom@hotmail.com>
To: Massimo Picardello <picard@axp.mat.uniroma2.it>
Cc: Il Gatto Blu . <ilgattoblu@hotmail.com>, genevieve basquine <gajeur@yahoo.fr>,
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Non penalizza perch? nessuna decisione  viene presa ma si rimanda a dopo Firenze 

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Date: Sat, 4 Feb 2017 19:17:21 +0000
From: chiara lombardi <chiara_lom@hotmail.com>
To: Massimo Picardello <picard@axp.mat.uniroma2.it>
Cc: Il Gatto Blu . <ilgattoblu@hotmail.com>, genevieve basquine <gajeur@yahoo.fr>,
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Il verbale va scritto ed esso non ?  il copia incolla delle mail.. ma un verbale... iniziamo a fare le cose come
si deve.

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Date: Sat, 4 Feb 2017 19:20:08 +0000
From: chiara lombardi <chiara_lom@hotmail.com>
To: Massimo Picardello <picard@axp.mat.uniroma2.it>
Cc: Il Gatto Blu . <ilgattoblu@hotmail.com>, genevieve basquine <gajeur@yahoo.fr>,
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Anche perch?  ricordiamoci  che ci ?  gi? stato detto che in teoria  un cdn  via mail non ?  molto  corretto per >
non identificazione.. poi che per noi sia comodo questa ?  un altra storia.

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Date: Sat, 4 Feb 2017 20:25:16 +0100 (CET)
From: Massimo Picardello <picard@axp.mat.uniroma2.it>
To: chiara lombardi <chiara_lom@hotmail.com>
Cc: Il Gatto Blu . <ilgattoblu@hotmail.com>, genevieve basquine <gajeur@yahoo.fr>,
    Gryfo Bengals <gryfo.bengals@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: R: R: R: R: Meeting of TICat Board of Officers, 2.1.2017

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Il verbale di una riunione fatta via email E' il copia-incolla delle email, perche' ciascuna di esse e' un
intervento a verbale.

Al termine della riunione inviero' a ciascuno di voi copia dell'elenco delle mail sulla vostra posta
certificata, e potrete quindi prenderne visione per conferma. Questo ci garantira' sulla autenticita' di cio'
che ciascuno ha scritto.

Massimo Picardello

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Date: Sat, 4 Feb 2017 21:58:53 +0000 (UTC)
From: genevieve basquine <gajeur@yahoo.fr>
To: Massimo Picardello <picard@axp.mat.uniroma2.it>, chiara lombardi <chiara_lom@hotmail.com>
Cc: Gryfo Bengals <gryfo.bengals@gmail.com>, Il Gatto Blu . <ilgattoblu@hotmail.com>
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I agree with that
Genevieve

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Da: genevieve basquine <gajeur@yahoo.fr>
Data: 04/02/17 23:01 (GMT+01:00)
A: Massimo Picardello <picard@axp.mat.uniroma2.it>, chiara lombardi <chiara_lom@hotmail.com>
Cc: "Il Gatto Blu ." <ilgattoblu@hotmail.com>, Gryfo Bengals <gryfo.bengals@gmail.com>
Oggetto: Re: R: R: R: R: Meeting of TICat Board of Officers, 2.1.2017

Thank you Massimo
Genevieve

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Date: Sun, 5 Feb 2017 08:29:51 +0000
From: chiara lombardi <chiara_lom@hotmail.com>
To: genevieve basquine <gajeur@yahoo.fr>, Massimo Picardello <picard@axp.mat.uniroma2.it>
Cc: Gryfo Bengals <gryfo.bengals@gmail.com>, Il Gatto Blu . <ilgattoblu@hotmail.com>
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With  what ? Sorry I didn't  understand  as it's a long mail with many proposal

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Date: Sun, 5 Feb 2017 08:33:24 +0000
From: chiara lombardi <chiara_lom@hotmail.com>
To: genevieve basquine <gajeur@yahoo.fr>, Massimo Picardello <picard@axp.mat.uniroma2.it>
Cc: Il Gatto Blu . <ilgattoblu@hotmail.com>, Gryfo Bengals <gryfo.bengals@gmail.com>
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I think the best is close this discussion and fix the elections as this board need to follow the solar year...
so the best solution  is to discuss  all that after the election.
Is more correct  also if the board will remain the same.

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Date: Sun, 5 Feb 2017 13:11:00 +0000 (UTC)
From: genevieve basquine <gajeur@yahoo.fr>
To: chiara lombardi <chiara_lom@hotmail.com>,
    Massimo Picardello <picard@axp.mat.uniroma2.it>
Cc: Gryfo Bengals <gryfo.bengals@gmail.com>,
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Dear Chiara
May be I should have given more explanations about the Mail that Massimo sent.
I can only encourage you, whenever possible, to make joint exhibitions. This brings
more cats living in Italy as well as coming from abroad. The official books
recognized by the Italian Government have a strong interest in encouraging
compliance with the regulations concerning the pedigree of cats born or imported
into Italy. In my opinion, the interest of TICat is to follow this path so as not
to create jealousy on the part of clubs whoch have been organizing exhibitions for
a long time. It would be a gesture of goodwill in preamble to an agreement between
these books of origin and TICA. Of course for domestic cats, TICA is the only one
to have a real championship course, but these cats are neutered or spayed and must
be registered so that their course be taken into account, although they do not have
pedigrees.
Just my two cents
Genevieve

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Date: Wed, 8 Feb 2017 02:00:40 +0100 (CET)
From: Massimo Picardello <picard@axp.mat.uniroma2.it>
To: genevieve basquine <gajeur@yahoo.fr>
Cc: chiara lombardi <chiara_lom@hotmail.com>, Il Gatto Blu . <ilgattoblu@hotmail.com>,
    Gryfo Bengals <gryfo.bengals@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: R: R: R: R: Meeting of TICat Board of Officers, 2.1.2017

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Dear all, this is the last communication before we close this email meeting. We need to close
it amnd pass to the elections. but before we start the election we need to declare those
members who did not renew their membership by paying their fees as dropped from mebership: they
can always renew later on, but we cannot determine the list of voters otherwise. So please
confirm that the members who did not renew are dropped: they are  (of course, this does not
apply to the honorary/founding members who do not need to pay an annual membersip fee). I wish
to start the timing for election phase tomorrow. Thank you.

Massimo Picardello

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Date: Wed, 8 Feb 2017 02:14:24 +0000
From: Il Gatto Blu . <ilgattoblu@hotmail.com>
To: Massimo Picardello <picard@axp.mat.uniroma2.it>
Cc: genevieve basquine <gajeur@yahoo.fr>, chiara lombiardi <chiara_lom@hotmail.com>,
    Gryfo Bengals <gryfo.bengals@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: R: R: R: R: Meeting of TICat Board of Officers, 2.1.2017

I confirm.
Thank you .

Alessio Pasquini 

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Date: Wed, 8 Feb 2017 05:38:43 +0000
From: chiara lombardi <chiara_lom@hotmail.com>
To: Il Gatto Blu . <ilgattoblu@hotmail.com>, Massimo Picardello <picard@axp.mat.uniroma2.it>
Cc: genevieve basquine <gajeur@yahoo.fr>, Gryfo Bengals <gryfo.bengals@gmail.com>
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Ok 
Chiara 

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Date: Wed, 8 Feb 2017 11:05:08 +0000
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To: Il Gatto Blu . <ilgattoblu@hotmail.com>, Massimo Picardello <picard@axp.mat.uniroma2.it>
Cc: genevieve basquine <gajeur@yahoo.fr>, Gryfo Bengals <gryfo.bengals@gmail.com>
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At this point  I would  like to know who can vote. A list of the members  that have the possibility  to
vote 

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Date: Wed, 8 Feb 2017 12:41:29 +0100
From: Gryfo Bengals <gryfo.bengals@gmail.com>
To: chiara lombardi <chiara_lom@hotmail.com>
Cc: Il Gatto Blu . <ilgattoblu@hotmail.com>, Massimo Picardello <picard@axp.mat.uniroma2.it>,
    genevieve basquine <gajeur@yahoo.fr>
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It'ok to me but as Chiara I would Like to have a list of members Who can vote. Alessio maybe you have
it...

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To      : chiara lombardi <chiara_lom@hotmail.com>
Cc      : "Il Gatto Blu ." <ilgattoblu@hotmail.com>, 
          genevieve basquine <gajeur@yahoo.fr>, 
          Gryfo Bengals <gryfo.bengals@gmail.com>
Attchmnt: 
Subject : Re: R: R: R: R: R: Meeting of TICat Board of Officers, 2.1.2017
----- Message Text -----
Sure. Here is the list of the members that has been sent to the company   
that organizes the online
election:

BERNAVA
BERTINI
BRAMBILLA
BRUNO
BUCAIONI
CALCAGNILE
CALLIGARI
CAPPELLETTI
CIUREA
CODACCI
CRABA
CREMANTE UEDA
DENTICO
FOGATO
GRANATA
GUAGNANO
GUARNASCHELLI
KALUDEROVIC
LOMBARDI
PASQUINI
PORRU
PREVITALI
RIZZETTO
RUSSO
SCHIAVONE
VON ARX-BEELI
PICARDELLO
BASQUINE
BOURREAU
REMY
LAGARDE
VLACH
VLACH

Massimo Picardello

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Date: Thu, 9 Feb 2017 15:51:16 +0000
From: chiara lombardi <chiara_lom@hotmail.com>
To: Massimo Picardello <picard@axp.mat.uniroma2.it>
Cc: Il Gatto Blu . <ilgattoblu@hotmail.com>, genevieve basquine <gajeur@yahoo.fr>,
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arianna zetti ha rinnovato il 17 gennaio nella lista non ci sta come vogliamo comportarci ?

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Date: Thu, 9 Feb 2017 21:04:17 +0100 (CET)
From: Massimo Picardello <picard@axp.mat.uniroma2.it>
To: chiara lombardi <chiara_lom@hotmail.com>
Cc: Il Gatto Blu . <ilgattoblu@hotmail.com>, genevieve basquine <gajeur@yahoo.fr>,
    Gryfo Bengals <gryfo.bengals@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: R: R: R: R: R: Meeting of TICat Board of Officers, 2.1.2017

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Arianna Zetti e' gia' stata riaggiunta alla lista dei votanti. L'errore comunque era suo, non
del tesoriere: aveva fatto il versamento PayPal dall'indirizzo del marito e senza specificare
nella causale di chi si trattava.

Massimo Picardello

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Date: Thu, 9 Feb 2017 17:31:36 +0000
From: Il Gatto Blu . <ilgattoblu@hotmail.com>
To: chiara lombardi <chiara_lom@hotmail.com>, Massimo Picardello <picard@axp.mat.uniroma2.it>
Cc: genevieve basquine <gajeur@yahoo.fr>, Gryfo Bengals <gryfo.bengals@gmail.com>
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L'unico nominativo che ha pagato il 17 Gennaio ? Massimo Bini, ed ? il nome che cercavamo se
ricordi anche su facebook e nelle chat perche non sapevamo chi fosse, abbiamo chiesto anche
attraverso un post ma nessuno si ? mai fatto avanti, quindi quel nome l'ho inserito nei soci
2017.

Chi effettua i pagamenti per terzi dovrebbe scrivere nelle note il nome della persona per cui
paga, altrimenti succedono queste cose e sia io che te e gli altri abbiamo cercato quella
persona in quanto mancava anche la scheda,

il pagamento ? stato fatto tramite paypal ed ha questa opzione come la ha il bonifico.

Cambio subito il nominativo per quanto riguarda la contabilita.

Alessio Pasquini

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Date: Thu, 9 Feb 2017 17:42:18 +0000
From: chiara lombardi <chiara_lom@hotmail.com>
To: Il Gatto Blu . <ilgattoblu@hotmail.com>, Massimo Picardello <picard@axp.mat.uniroma2.it>
Cc: genevieve basquine <gajeur@yahoo.fr>, Gryfo Bengals <gryfo.bengals@gmail.com>
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Hai ragione. Ma che facciamo  la facciamo votare o meno?

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Date: Sat, 4 Feb 2017 16:54:11 +0100 (CET)
From: Massimo Picardello <picard@axp.mat.uniroma2.it>
To: chiara lombardi <chiara_lom@hotmail.com>
Cc: genevieve basquine <gajeur@yahoo.fr>, Il Gatto Blu . <ilgattoblu@hotmail.com>,
    Gryfo Bengals <gryfo.bengals@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: R: Meeting of TICat Board of Officers, 2.1.2017

I exchanged messages with Chiara Lombardi in continuation of our Board Meeting, but I realize tht she had not
forwarded her eply to you all. Therefore I forward to you all our full conversation. Please do reply to all. Thanks.

Massimo Picardello
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Date: Sat, 4 Feb 2017 10:01:00 +0000
From: chiara lombardi <chiara_lom@hotmail.com>
To: Massimo Picardello <picard@axp.mat.uniroma2.it>
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Direi assolutamente  si alle expo congiunte.
Per il resto la pacifica convivenza  e la collaborazione  per me non necessita alcun accordo
scritto come tra l'altro espresso da tutti i membri  italiani che non volevano  questo tipo di
accordo.

Date: Sat, 4 Feb 2017 13:52:53 +0100 (CET)
From: Massimo Picardello <picard@axp.mat.uniroma2.it>
To: chiara lombardi <chiara_lom@hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: R: R: Meeting of TICat Board of Officers, 2.1.2017

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Resta pero' la questione dell'esigenza di pedigree itaiani per i gatti italiani che vanno in
esposizione. Il Ministro ce lo ha richiesto. Come vogliamo regolarla? Un accordo era un modo
possibile. Un altro modo e'
inserirla nel nostro Statuto.

Massimo Picardello

Date: Sat, 4 Feb 2017 13:11:53 +0000
From: chiara lombardi <chiara_lom@hotmail.com>
To: Massimo Picardello <picard@axp.mat.uniroma2.it>
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Ognuno ha il dovere di iscrivere i gatti non sta a noi regolare ci?. Una modifica  dello statuto ha
bisogno  della maggioranza  in una assemblea ed ?  impossibile  pensare che voteranno a favore tutti
quelli che hanno votato no all'accordo.
In sunto non credo sia una cosa che dobbiamo regolare noi siamo solo un club pensiamo a fare le
expo e crescere.
Penso che questa sia una cosa lunghissima  questa discussione  forse la rimanderei  a un assemblea
generale in futuro.
Magari dal vivo a Firenze

———————————————Date: Sat, 4 Feb 2017 17:59:57 +0100 (CET)
From: Massimo Picardello <picard@axp.mat.uniroma2.it>
To: chiara lombardi <chiara_lom@hotmail.com>
Cc: genevieve basquine <gajeur@yahoo.fr>, Il Gatto Blu . <ilgattoblu@hotmail.com>,
    Gryfo Bengals <gryfo.bengals@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: R: R: Meeting of TICat Board of Officers, 2.1.2017

But it cannot work this way. If we change the entry rules, then our members will simply skip the joint shows and wait
for the shows done only by TICat. This will have the effect of reducing the counts at the joint shows - for instance
the forthcoming Florence show.

Massimo Picardello

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-------- Messaggio originale --------
Da: Massimo Picardello <picard@axp.mat.uniroma2.it>
Data: 04/02/17 20:06 (GMT+01:00)
A: chiara lombardi <chiara_lom@hotmail.com>
Cc: "Il Gatto Blu ." <ilgattoblu@hotmail.com>, genevieve basquine <gajeur@yahoo.fr>, Gryfo Bengals
<gryfo.bengals@gmail.com>
Oggetto: Re: R: R: R: Meeting of TICat Board of Officers, 2.1.2017

Questa discussione entra nel verbale degli Officers, che viene pubblicato
appena finita questa riunione. Quindi tutti lo leggono, e di conseguenza
penalizza lo show di Firenze.

Massimo Picardello

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Date: Sat, 4 Feb 2017 19:17:21 +0000
From: chiara lombardi <chiara_lom@hotmail.com>
To: Massimo Picardello <picard@axp.mat.uniroma2.it>
Cc: Il Gatto Blu . <ilgattoblu@hotmail.com>, genevieve basquine <gajeur@yahoo.fr>,
    Gryfo Bengals <gryfo.bengals@gmail.com>
Subject: R: R: R: R: Meeting of TICat Board of Officers, 2.1.2017
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Il verbale va scritto ed esso non è  il copia incolla delle mail.. ma un verbale... iniziamo a fare le cose
come si deve.

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Date: Sat, 4 Feb 2017 19:20:08 +0000
From: chiara lombardi <chiara_lom@hotmail.com>
To: Massimo Picardello <picard@axp.mat.uniroma2.it>
Cc: Il Gatto Blu . <ilgattoblu@hotmail.com>, genevieve basquine <gajeur@yahoo.fr>,
    Gryfo Bengals <gryfo.bengals@gmail.com>
Subject: R: R: R: R: Meeting of TICat Board of Officers, 2.1.2017
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Anche perché  ricordiamoci  che ci è  già stato detto che in teoria  un cdn  via mail non è  molto  corretto
per la non identificazione.. poi che per noi sia comodo questa è  un altra storia.

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Date: Sun, 5 Feb 2017 13:20:14 +0100 (CET)
From: Massimo Picardello <picard@axp.mat.uniroma2.it>
To: chiara lombardi <chiara_lom@hotmail.com>
Cc: Calligari Roberto & Cantoia Samantha <mainecoonlionheart@yahoo.it>,
    "ilgattoblu@gmail.com" <ilgattoblu@gmail.com>, Gryfo Bengals <gryfo.bengals@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: R: Procedure per le iscrizioni.

Caro Roberto,secondo il parere ministeriale, il gatto nato in Italia nom dovrebbe essere venduto all'estero senza
prima avere un pedigree italiano. Prima di procedere, devo chiedere all'ENFI, per vedere se lo accettano senza.

Per il tuo rporto di MC, devo vedere il catalogo che mi hai mandato. Ma siccome consiste di un numero gigantesco di
immagini singile, pagina per pagina, devo aver tempo di cucirle prima in un unico file pdf, operazione complicata se
fatta a posteriori. Appena avro' il tempo procedero'. Se lo fai tu ti sono grato, ma mi hai detto che non sai come.

Massimo Picardello

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